Showing posts with label Brazil. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Brazil. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 5, 2014

Countdown to Brazil: Off The Post

99 Days Away From The World's Greatest Sporting Event


It's been awhile, but Off The Post is back.  We thought we would change things up a bit this week, and delve into some more personal aspects of our fandom, while also getting into the realm of predictions and fantasy.  If only fantasy could become reality, then we would have an actual competent individual running FIFA! To ensure that Landon Donovan still has hair by the time you are done reading this week's edition, lets jump right into the topics.

1. Which player do you anticipate being the biggest villain in this World Cup?


Garrett:  For this World Cup, you're more likely to find villains off the pitch.  After all, Sepp Blatter still walks the planet, and you never know the moronic things Public Enemy #1 will say or do.  Who knows, Sepp may try and get the next World Cup to be hosted by Antarctica.  Blatter gonna Blatter, y'all.  If not Sepp Blatter, the entire country of Brazil could become a villain.  Now, I sure hope that isn't the case, but one can't ignore the riots that occurred in the country during last summer's Confederations Cup.  However, the question posed focuses strictly on players, providing a task that is unfortunately far harder to predict and accomplish than hating on Sepp Blatter.

To assess who fits the bill for a villain this year, you have to look to years past.  In 2010, it was Luis Suarez for his intentional hand-ball in the quarterfinals against Ghana.  Four years prior, Zidane's power header into Marco Materazzi's chest forever secured Zizou's spot in infamy.  And twelve years ago, everyone rightfully criticized the Brazilian Rivaldo for his feigning antics in their group game against Turkey, right in front of the linesmen.  Based off those three examples, we've got three things to look for in villains: cheaters, brutes, and terrible actors.  Luckily, there is one person who meets all three...

As much as I'd like to select Sergio Busquets, the Barcelona man is only known for horrendous diving. Likewise, Wayne Rooney could once again turn villain should his well-known temper flare ups.  Mostly though, I just wanted an excuse for sharing that excellent photoshop up above. If you're looking for the man to cause the most controversy in Brazil this summer, look no further than Cristiano Ronaldo.  The man's talent is often only eclipsed by his ability to fake the referee into giving him free kicks (which he is incredibly good at).  Furthermore, he's been known to lash out at players, and even coaches (granted, you'd too probably lash out at the Barcelona Screen Actors Guild FC if you had to play them five times in a season).  The "cheating" aspect may be a bit of a stretch, but you can't doubt Cristiano's win-at-all-costs mentality if you've watched him play over the years.

All you have to do to imagine the level of villainy that can be reached is envision this scenario....Late in the game, against the United States, with the score tied, Cristiano takes one of his patented dives (despite his ability to get past our MLS center backs), then hits one of his patented free kicks into the back of the net to essentially kill any chance we had at advancing from the group.  Yup, CR7 is the most likely candidate to be the villain of the 2014 World Cup.

Kyle: I'm going with Arjen Robben, but I doubt his actions will generate the same publicity as Luis Suarez's intentional hand ball in 2010. "The Oranje" are known for playing attractive, attacking soccer, but Robben is a master of soccer's dark arts.


I can't stand watching Arjen Robben. Every time I see him with the ball I hope a defender stops him, and when Robben inevitably starts complaining to the ref, clears the ball off his face. Robben is an extremely talented player that does not need to dive in order to trick the referee. The second half of this video shows Robben at his worst.

In the upcoming tournament, I can envision a similar situation to the 2010 World Cup Final where Arjen Robben was involved in a controversial refereeing decision that detracted from the actual game. Watch as Arjen feels aggrieved and sprints 30 yards across the field to scream at the referee. Schadenfreude can feel so good.

I'll go on an aside and discuss diving and my favorite club team, FC Barcelona. I'm sure Garrett will think I'm being hypocritical by criticizing Robben when Barca players are accused of diving. First, I am selecting a player who may be a villain in this upcoming World Cup due to simulating fouls, and I know there are other players who meet this criteria such as Sergio Busquets and Luis Suarez. Second, I believe Barca players are generally honest players with the exceptions of Busquets and possibly Dani Alves. It upsets me when they feign injury. Iniesta, Messi, and Xavi are small players that are easier to knock them down. Just because a player falls down on a fair challenge doesn't mean the player was diving. Sometimes players fall because of a fair challenge and get back up without complaining. Neymar has a reputation as someone who goes down easily and I hope he changes his habits.

Tito: Villains, in this day and age, are praised. There are three possible "villains" that come to mind when it comes to this summer's World Cup. The first, and probably the most notorious, is Mario Balotelli. However, since he was emphasized in an earlier post, I'm going to deter from picking him. The second bad boy in football is Nigel de Jong. His ninja flying kick into Xabi Alonso's chest still shocks me (fast forward to 2:28). How that wasn't a yellow is beyond me. But I reserve the role of villain for someone even more special. This special someone is none other than our Portuguese heavy hitter...Madrid's enforcer... Pepe.

Pepe has been on my radar of the most despicable players for years. He's one of the most ruthless individuals on the pitch. He is the worst of both worlds. Pepe blatantly kicks, elbows, steps, and grabs AND will be one of the first to hit the ground at any sign of retaliation. I think I've seen him hit the floor with just a pair of glaring eyes... ok ok, that last part was a little much, but I will definitely not be surprised if this is the World Cup that sends him to notoriety. Pepe's masterpieces will continue to follow him throught his career. This guy has a highlight reel of hits that look more like boxing events between Arturo Gatti and Mickey Ward than soccer.

This guy not only puts beatings on players, but he is also ridiculous enough to claim innocence and surprise when cards get pulled out. This is the type of player makes me boil. But he takes it a step further, he goes beyond just cracking players and act surprised, he is also one of the biggest floppers around when push does come to shove. I've scene this guy fake a hit, drop to the ground, and roll over screaming bloody murder. I think he'll end up getting an Oscar before Leonardo DiCaprio.

2. Which World Cup team do you dislike the most?

Garrett: Ha, this is an easy one.  Is there really an acceptable answer here other than Mexico?  I mean, you could make an argument for Spain due to their status as perennial favorite over the past few years, and their propensity to act like they are up for an Academy Award.  But at least they are a good team, and they are gracious in defeat. The more I try to look for other teams to hate on, the more I realize that Mexico can be the only one.

If we're going to trace my severe dislike for El Tri, the only acceptable place to start is 2002.  This was the summer that started it all for me as a soccer fan, where I became truly aware of the world's game.  I was only 13 at the time, and would spend my summer nights sleeping on a (very uncomfortable) pullout couch in the TV room, setting my alarm clock to wake me up in the middle of the night so I could watch whatever World Cup game piqued my interest.  While the USA vs. Portugal game was incredible, as was the England vs. Argentina rematch, nothing compared to USA vs. Mexico in the Round of 16.  Living in a border town, all I heard from friends and news stations was how we stood no chance against the Mexicans.  They had more experience than us on the big stage, better players, etc.  Yet we had something that Mexico still hasn't been able to acquire to this day...that good old American spirit of fighting till the end, and beating your opponent through sheer will and determination.  Some would call it "playing with heart."  What happened on that June day in Jeonju will never be forgotten by American fans, and it has changed the rivalry forever.  But what is the lasting image in my mind? Rafa Marquez, late in the game with the Mexicans down 2-0, goes in for a horrible aerial attack (can't really call it a challenge, as that would imply there was an actual attempt at playing the ball) on Cobi Jones, and rightly receives a straight red card.  It was the move of scum, sore losers who have no respect for their opponents.  It forever shaped my view of the Mexican national team, and has been reinforced throughout the years.  Much can't be said about Mexico in a positive manner when their fans throw bottles of urine at players when they are taking corners, or when their players continue to try and take out opponents out of frustration.  Think that Rafa Marquez incident was a one time incident? It happened again in 2009.


Many of my friends will rush to the defense of El Tri, but personally, it's impossible to change my views on this team after watching how they (the players and their fans) have carried themselves over the past decade.  I can't wait to see them eliminated from this summer's tournament, most likely in embarrassing fashion.

Kyle: I'll select Germany, but they are becoming harder to cheer against. I picked Germany for three reasons: I've disliked their playing style, I don't cheer for favorites unless it's my team, and Germany defeated my favorite teams in recent World Cups.

Until 2006, I didn't enjoy Germany's playing style. Prior to 2006, Germany played disciplined, robotic soccer. They were strong, physical, and well-positioned. Their style was effective but not entertaining. "Die Mannschaft" has produced very talented players such as Franz Beckenbauer and Jurgen Klinnsmann, but their teams were known more for winning close games with typical German efficiency than winning over fans with beautiful soccer. Since 2006, Germany changed their style and plays more aesthetically pleasing soccer utilizing talented playmakers such as Mesut Ozil, Toni Kroos, and Thomas Mueller. In addition, Phillip Lahm and Bastian Schweinsteiger are two of my favorite soccer players. It's getting harder to for me to dislike Germany with their change in style and abundance of talented players.

Another reason I picked Germany is that I don't generally cheer for powerhouse teams. I didn't like Jordan's Chicago Bulls, the Cowboys in the 1990s, or the Kobe/Shaq Lakers. Maybe that explains my dislike of the German National Team. They are historically great and have been consistently good since 2006. Germany won the World Cup three times, which puts them in third place all time behind Brazil (5) and Italy (4). Former England international Gary Lineker stated "Football is a simple game; 22 men chase the ball around for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win." Well said, Mr. Lineker.

Lastly, Germany defeated my two favorite teams, the U.S. and Mexico, several times since 1998. In 1998, Germany beat the U.S. in the group stages and knocked Mexico out of the World Cup in a close quarterfinals game. In 2002, Germany beat the U.S. in the quarterfinals.

Tito: I most definitely want to state Mexico as my most disliked team. But I must say, Garrett has done a great job in emphasizing and showing that for the both of us. Considering Mexico has been bashed enough, I will take this opportunity to say that I have begun to hate the Dutch soccer... That's right, the Dutch. This is a team that has never ever delivered and has so much talent.


The Orange Machine, as many know them by, developed Total 90 football.  They have Robin Van Persie leading the front lines along with Robben, and others like van der Vaart and other "van der" this and "van der" that. Yet, this squad of playmakers managed to be the dirtiest team in the 2010 WC. I'll admit, in 2010 I was hoping for a good showing, but even though they made it to the final, their style of play was surrounded by the hits of van Bommel, de Jong, and Heitinga. The 2012 Euros rolled around and Netherlands' lackluster play generated criticism from the infamous Johan Cruyff. He stated that the team's star players had poor build up play and sloppy execution. Granted, they were in the group of death with Germany, Portugal, and Denmark... but Netherlands lost ALL of their games, and only two years after being in the World Cup finals.

They have been grouped with Spain, Chile, and Australia, for this years' World Cup and I sincerely wish that the Dutch don't make it out of the group stage in the same fashion as the Euros... Top talent, little imagination, they are completely over-hyped... they constantly under-deliver... and for these reasons, they are my most disliked team.

3. Which World Cup team is your favorite?


Garrett:  Based on my answer to the preceding question, you already know my team is Sam's Army.  In terms of sporting events I get up for most, the only thing that compares to a U.S. soccer game is when my beloved Texas Longhorns take the football field.  Ever since the 2002 World Cup, I've lived and died with every competitive game the U.S. has played.  I remember the highest of highs, and the lowest of lows. My father and I cheered with euphoria when we beat Mexico that summer, and cursed Oliver Kahn's name every time he denied us in the quarterfinal we should have won.  I'll never forget the epic draw with Italy in 2006 that was really more of a war than a game, only to see us unable to take down Ghana.  Nor will I forget the unbelievable summer of 2009: the miracle of beating Egypt and advancing to the semifinals of the Confederations Cup on a tiebreaker; beating Spain, the best team in the world, by two goals; and taking a two goal lead on Brazil in the final, only to give it all away as if Jeff Agoos was once again commanding our back line. Then there was the 2010 World Cup, which brought with it the full spectrum of emotions.  There was the incredible comeback against lowly Slovenia, and arguably the most horrendous call in the history of officiating by Koman Coulibaly.  A few days after that, my mother watched me and my friends shed tears of joy and yell at the top of our lungs when Landon Donovan scored the most important goal in the history of U.S. soccer, and sent us through to the knockout rounds.  To this day, I still get goosebumps when thinking about that moment.  Finally, there was the anguish of falling to Ghana in extra time in the Round of 16, when a victory could have very well meant a berth in the semis given how Ghana competed with Uruguay.

We've never been the most talented team, and we probably never will be in this sport.  Yet we never say die, and our boys always leave everything that they have out on the pitch.  They play not only for each other, but for the betterment of the game itself, hoping that their performances will inspire Americans to follow the game more, and for youth to kick the ball around instead of throwing a pigskin. It's for these reasons that I can always be proud of our team's performances, no matter the result, and also why I will always be proud to wear the crest and the colors.

Kyle: I'm a U.S. supporter. I was born and raised in the U.S. and grew up cheering for the USMNT. Like any sports team, the USMNT has brought both happiness and sadness. I remember the U.S. upsetting Colombia to advance to the knockout rounds in the '94 World Cup, not winning a single game in France '98, and upsetting Portugal in Korea/Japan '02.


I enjoy how the USMNT work hard for each other, play solid defense, and seem to get along. I'm proud to support a team that works hard because not everyone can be technically gifted. A player must work harder if he doesn't possess other technical skills. After all, not every team can be blessed with highly technical players like Messi and Ronaldo, just like not every team can be blessed with certain physical traits. The U.S. maximizes their strengths, which is the wise thing to do.

Tito: Interestingly enough, I am completely torn at this stage. I would genuinely have to say that I can't decide between my top two favorite teams. For CONTROVERSY'S sake, although I am incredibly adamant about the United States soccer team, I will say Brazil. Before I get bashed for being UN-American hear me out... I know I will be getting grief from those that I know, and yes I was born states-side, soccer growing up was definitely an unpopular sport. Did I get made fun of for playing the game? Yes. Did I care? No. Now, who made fun of me? My fellow, non-soccer playing, "Americans." I give this story because it was difficult for me to want to root for a country when the people in the US didn't even appreciate the game, but as I grew older my love for the USMNT has grown. But it's true, my first national team love was Brazil.

Many people will probably say I root for Brazil because they have the most World Cups and generate the best players, etc. But my love for the Brazilian team stems from when I was an infant. As you may know, I was the first person in my family born in the United States and we come from the humble country of Nicaragua. The national sport for Nicaragua is baseball, followed by boxing, and in third place is soccer. Given that, since I was in the United States (and this was before we could get every soccer channel under the sun on TV and internet), we were limited to certain soccer games. But the stories that my dad would tell me about the Brazilians just fascinated me. When I was a kid I would get coaches calling me "little Pele"; when I had to do reports for school it involved individuals like Garrincha, Pele, Rivelino, Carlos Alberto, Socrates, etc. (I'm sure my teachers loved reading my write-ups haha I mean, how could they not!).

Everything about soccer that I loved and still love has evolved around the Brazilian style of play. Unlike the British and American way of soccer, where the crowd will go wild over a hard crashing tackle, I was much more intrigued by the jukes and megs on the field. When my Dad and I would watch games, we would always be discussing the Brazilians. Granted, they now hold 5 World Cup titles (1958, '62, '70, '94, and 2002), more than any other country, and rightly so. Watching them play is exciting. Even during the Dunga days where the team was more defensive, they had more talent than most of the teams combined. The players that have emerged from Brazil are nearly incomparable. From those that I previously mentioned to the likes of Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Romario, Bebeto, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Carlos Alberto, Neymar (although his talent is just beginning to emerge)... the list literally goes on and on.

I can't have enough praise for Brazil when it comes to soccer, as they can literally make a national team and have them be competitive at almost every street corner (a bit of hyperbole, but it was to emphasize their talent pool is extraordinary). I can't wait to see the goals, the dancing, the joy of watching them play... it is apparent that they really enjoy playing the game and they are the few that actually smile while playing. This happiness for the game transcends into their style of flair and attack.

Joga Bonito

4. Which World Cup team is your second favorite?

Garrett: While Kyle may not like the Germans, I love watching them perform in international tournaments.  Most people will hate them because they are perennial favorites, but I admire them for their continuous success despite different managers, and changes in style.  (Not to mention I love the despair they cause for my Argentinean friends in every World Cup!)

Think back to 2002, when the Germans won based on efficiency, tight defense, physical prowess, and the Great Wall of Kahn.  That team had a lot of deficiencies, and should have lost to the U.S. in the quarterfinals, but they still found a way to make it to the final despite not playing attractive soccer.  Fast forward to 2006, and the team was in shambles heading into the World Cup as the host nation.  They had failed to get out of their group in Euro 2004 (an astounding collapse for the Germans), and had fallen farther in the FIFA rankings than ever before.  In surprising fashion, Jurgen Klinsmann chose a squad filled with young talent like Lukas Podolski, Bastian Schweinstegier, and Phillip Lahm, and led Germany all the way to the semifinals while playing much more attractive soccer than the 2002 team produced.  It came full circle for the Germans in 2010, where they once again made the World Cup semis, but did so by playing the most beautiful attacking soccer of the tournament.  Their performances against Argentina and England were the most dominating of the tournament, against two of the world's best teams.

Take it to the bank, this team is going to the be the most fun team to watch in Brazil this summer.  They will score goals in abundance, utilizing the best and most creative group of midfield players in the tournament.  Reus, Ozil, Gotze, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Muller, the abundance in attacking talent is unreal.  Move over, Spain and Brazil....this is the team to watch.

Kyle: My second favorite team is Mexico. It may be hard to understand how I can like the U.S. and Mexico, but I grew up on the U.S.-Mexico border watching the Mexican League. Maybe things would be different now with the availability of European, MLS, and South American soccer leagues on cable television.

However, during the 1990s the only televised professional soccer available to me was the Mexican League. I remember watching Claudio Suarez, Ramon Morales, and Pavel Pardo control games with their intelligence and skill. I rooted against Cuauhtemoc Blanco and Club America. I exaggeratedly cheered for "Bofo" Bautista because my friends despised him and his ridiculous goal celebrations (this one is my favorite; please note Bofo's jersey number is 100 and he has different colored shoes).

In general, I enjoyed watching the Mexican teams dominate possession and play attacking soccer. Take a look at this interesting 2011 article about the U.S.-Mexico border and soccer. It's interesting to note how the narrative has changed in only a few years.

Tito: I want to rename this from "[my] second favorite team" to "my other favorite team"

As I mentioned earlier, I am also an American fan. Both Garrett and Kyle express how they are USMNT fans, and I will stand right there with them. To be completely honest, I was not too aware of the USMNT until 1994, when the World Cup was brought to the states. I was 9 years old when I saw the passion that the US had when they hosted the World Cup. I had seen videotapes of previous WC and had never really made too much of a note of the Americans, but in '94, the first thing that came to mind was those uniforms... omg did they hurt my eyes... furthermore, somehow the mullet was also in fashion. I actually got to know and played on the same pitch with Marcelo Balboa in 2005, and when I saw him I couldn't get that mullet out of my head. haha.


Fashion aside, I remember seeing how they played and I was honored. Truth be told, in that WC Brazil played against US and I remember almost everything about that game. The final score was Brazil 1 USA 0; Bebeto (another player that I was able to meet and play a with). United States played a strong game and I liked how they were showing the world that soccer was alive in the US, they almost got one past Taffarel. I then found myself angry with Brazil, I felt like they betrayed the game and against the US... a team that I had found an attachment too (refer to 2:39 in the last video)... Leonardo, Brazil's captain threw one of the nastiest elbows to Tab Ramos. Losing a clutch player like Ramos to a vicious elbow was awful and I glad Leonardo got the straight red card. Interestingly enough, that game, I actually started rooting for the US.

Since then, soccer in America has come a long way; I believe the '94 World Cup catapulted soccer. The change of guard has occurred from Ernie Stewart, Coby Jones, Alexi Lalas, Marcelo Balboa, and Mr. America himself, Claudia Reyna to Landon Donovan, DeMarcus Beasley, Tim Howard. In my time as a player, I've been lucky enough to play on the field with many great players (as I mentioned before Bebeto, Marcelo Balboa, even players like Goyocochea (Argentinian keeper) and El Pibe Valderamma)... and I am also proud to say that I have shared a field with two of our fellow Americans. Every time the USMNT plays, I hope to see them on the roster and make an impact on the game. Edgar Castillo is from Las Cruces, NM which is 45 minutes from El Paso, TX and we would play each other quite regurly, and the other player is Stuart Holden. These two players hopefully make an impact on the USMNT, if they make it to Brazil, but considering it is Donovan's, Beasley's, and quite possibly Howard's last WC, the players like Castillo, Holden, Diskerud, and Michael Bradley (the best player US has)... could become the best the US has ever had) will need to step up and carry the flag.

The US shows heart and hard work and hopefully the wins in the World Cup follow, but all we can ask for is from the US is just that... heart and hard work.

5. You are the team manager and are picking a goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, and forward from the players in the World Cup (excluding Messi and Ronaldo). We picked using a snake draft (Tito, Garrett, and Kyle). Why did you select those players? More importantly, why is Team Kyle so much better?

Team Garrett: Thibaut Courtois (Belgium, Goalkeeper), Thiago Silva (Brazil, Defender), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany, Midfield), and Sergio Aguero (Argentina, Forward).

Team Kyle: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy, Goalkeeper), Vincent Kompany (Belgium, Defender), Andrea Pirlo (Midfield, Italy), and Luis Suarez (Forward, Uruguay).

Team Tito: Manuel Neuer (Germany, Goalkeeper), Pablo Zabaleta (Argentina, Defender), Xavi Hernandez (Spain, Midfield), and Neymar (Brazil, Forward).

Garrett: Having the second pick in the draft, I had a very specific goal in building my team.  The goal with my first two picks was to build through the middle first by taking well-rounded, complete players in the middle of the pitch, and focusing on keepers and forwards with the last two selections, given the abundance of talent available at those positions.

My first selection was Thiago Silva, the best center back in the world.  Though Kompany may come close to Silva in talent, the facts show that Silva is the better player.  First, he was the only central defender selected on the shortlist for the 2013 Ballon d'Or.  Additionally, he's the most expensive defensive player in the world, and has been heralded by some as being better than Fabio Cannavaro in his prime.  Finally, he's succeeding at the highest level for both club and country, playing an instrumental part in leading Brazil to glory at last year's Confederations Cup, and PSG in both Ligue 1 and the Champions League this season.  For those of you with short memories, he was an absolute monster in shutting down Spain in the final last summer, frustrating Spanish players every time they touched the ball near him.

With the best center back on my team, I knew exactly which midfielder I was taking with my second pick.  Figuring that Tito and Kyle would take Xavi and Pirlo, I wanted to counter them with the complete midfielder: someone who can pull the strings like Xavi and Pirlo, but who also has an endless motor, is tough in the tackle, can score from distance, and is both experienced and versatile.  Given those criteria, there isn't a better man for the job than Bastian Schweinsteiger.

At the age of 29, he has already amassed 100 caps for Germany, and played in both the 2006 and 2010 World Cups.  His versatility is evidenced by the fact that he started out as a winger for Germany in 2006, but now features in the middle of the park for Die Mannschaft.  He's been known for his goal-scoring ability since the 3rd Place game of the 2006 World Cup, when he fired two lasers into the back of the net to beat Portugal.  Like Pirlo, he occupies a deep-lying playmaker role, but he wears so many more hats than both Pirlo and Xavi, the old "past their prime" dogs who only provide passing and free kick abilities.  With such a rock-solid foundation formed by the pairing of Silva and Schweinsteiger, the only chance Tito's and Kyle's team would have at winning a game would be by dominating from the wings.

The third pick proved the most difficult of the three.  I knew the keeper I wanted would be available in the fourth round, which meant I needed to take a forward in the third round.  There are an abundance of attacking options available around the world, so I tried to take someone who currently has the hot boot for his club, but also has a track record of scoring for his country.  Look no further than the diminutive Sergio Aguero.  He's scored 15 goals in 17 appearances for Manchester City this year, a blistering rate of nearly a goal a game.  Also, he's scoring .44 goals per game for Argentina, a very good rate for a national team.  What he lacks for in aerial prowess, he makes up for in shiftiness and acceleration, as he can be a nightmare for big center backs to deal with when making slashing runs to receive through balls.  Given that the tournament will be played close to home, Aguero should find the net more than once this summer.

Finally, I knew the keeper I wanted would be available no matter what, due to there being much bigger names out there with more experience.  But, those big names also have old legs and eyes, as Tito displays further down.  Thus, I went with the younger option, who may be flying under the radar here in America, but has all eyes upon him in Europe.  Thibaut Courtois is only 21, so you better get used to seeing a lot of him over the coming years.  At 6'6", he's a wall between the posts, and has been a big part of Atletico Madrid's success this season.  In 24 league games, he's kept 12 clean sheets, a pretty astounding rate for such a young keeper.  Additionally, he's expected to start at Chelsea next year, which is really saying something when you consider he's replacing club legend Peter Cech. He should contribute heavily to Belgium making a strong run in this summer's tournament, and he'll contend with Neuer in the years to come for the title of "World's Best Keeper."


When it comes down to it, I have the best team out of the three.  Tito is strong at the ends of the pitch, but he leaves a lot to be desired in the midfield and defense.  An Argentine defender isn't going to cut it when there are much better defensive options available, and Xavi is past his prime at the age of 34.  Kyle's team is very solid, and is a very close second, but I think I have the edge in three of the four positions.  Silva edges out Kompany, and both Buffon and Pirlo are aging players compared to their counterparts on my team.  If Vegas was making odds here, I'm confident in saying that my team would be the obvious favorite.

Kyle: I wanted to choose players that would play in the middle of the field. Central players form the spine of a team and, I believe, exert a greater influence on a game.

I started by picking Luis Suarez who is a goal scoring forward that can make something out of nothing. Defenders look frightened when Suarez has the ball in their vicinity. At any second, the defenders can be on the wrong end of a highlight reel. With Luis Suarez as my forward, the team can score at any time. Suarez can turn a punt or clearance into a 50 yard slaloming run where he megs two defenders and chips the goalie. That's the advantage of having such a dynamic forward.

Second, I picked Vincent Kompany. He is a physical presence that is great in the air, which is important when dealing with crosses and set pieces. Also, he is able to pass the ball out of the back. It's probably apparent that I enjoy possession based soccer, and a skillful central defender is critical to maintaining possession and launching counterattacks. Kompany will be able to provide passing options to teammates who will be confident passing it to a skilled central defender.

Third, I picked Andrea Pirlo to pull the strings from midfield. I want to be like Andrea Pirlo. I want to drink wine and look this cool instead of a like wine-o vampire with blood stained teeth. I want to have a manly beard, luxurious hair, and a beanie instead of a sporting a vagabond beard with a ratty shirt that reeks of Lonestar. Pirlo is the coolest guy in the room and a mastermind on the field. He's 34 years old but can still dominate a game with his positioning and passing. When watching Pirlo, I constantly shake my head in disbelief as he shakes younger players in the midfield and sprays 40 yard passes to open teammates. He's a metronome that controls the game, doesn't lose the ball, and almost always makes the correct pass. He may not provide much defense, but there are very few players with his ability to unlock defenses. In addition, he's a free kick specialist. Long live "The Architect."

Finally, I choose Gianluigi Buffon as my goalkeeper. He's a solid keeper with vast experience in high-level games. He is 36, but goalkeepers can play for much longer than other positions.

I like my team over Tito's because of Zabaleta in the back. He's a solid defender, but he plays on the outside and can be a defensive liability. In general, I prefer a strong spine of a team and prefer any weakness to be on the outside. I'd take my chances with Suarez positioned out wide against Zabaleta.

Garrett's team is non-stop action. I'd like to think Pirlo could control the game and exploit any openings. If the pace was frenetic, my team might be in trouble.

Most importantly, it would be more fun to party with my team. It's just my interpretation, of the situation.

Tito: This was incredibly fun to do, and I must say... I find it incredibly intriguing that, according to my colleagues, I have the worst team. The decisions I made when it came to creating my team was making sure that I had a strong enough keeper to handle the attacking style of my other three players. The perspective that I took when it came to selecting my team was, if I were to be playing 'World Cup' (a game we all play during practice growing up), who would I choose to be part of my team... based off that, my team would be running the show!

The fact that I had first crack at picking, I knew I had to get the best keeper out there. Neuer is head and shoulders better than the rest. Neuer's numbers are hard and very real. This 27 year old, 6 foot 4 inch, stud is between the post for ze Germans.  This guy, in 2010 (at 24 years old) was the first pick for Germany. In the group stage he only allowed 1 goal, which was virtually unstoppable as it was a close range blast. Fast forward to 2012 Euros, he played every minute during the qualifications, helping him secure 10 wins out of the possible 10 games. His ability to transition from a block to outlet has allowed for many counter-attacks. Only the best keepers have that type of blocking ability AND vision to release the ball quickly. For these reasons I feel like the guy I have between the post is the strongest of the lot.

Knowing Kyle's preference for old Italian men, I had already guessed he was going to go for the classic Buffon. And Garrett's hipster ways has lead him to pick names he can't pronounce and are relatively unknown (hey Garrett, we already did the 'up and coming' soccer player, should have used this Toby Ciabatta  (or however your say/spell it) character for that post).

As the selection process snakes, I knew that I had to establish my attacking prowess. My next two choices was very orchestrated. I knew that I needed an individual in the midfield that pivotal, has experience, has a vision to think the impossible, and the skill to be able to deliver. Knowing what my forward choice was going to be and my thoughts on a defensive player, this midfield doesn't need to move much, his attractiveness to my team was based on vision, understanding of the game, and passing ability. Xavi was my first choice as he is the metronome for Spain and has a few World Cups under his belt. He has played at the greatest stages possible (World Cup champ, Euro champ, Champions League champ, and La Liga champ) and has delivered at every occasion. In regards to Kyle's choice in the mid-field, Pirlo, I really can't criticize his choice. Pirlo is a world class player, and even if I have a witty remark, I'll bite my tongue out of respect for the guy.... And Schweinsteiger, well... I'd look foolish if I said anything bad about the guy. Garrett is right, Bastian is incredibly talented and scores many goals. But my choice in not picking a player like Schweinsteiger is that I was looking more for a passer, not someone who is looking to go at that attack 1v1. I would say that each respective mid-field is quite strong and calculated.

I then double downed with Neymar (considering I was allowed to choose 4th and 5th). This Brazilians talent is insane. He is definitely one of the most impactful players in the game. Granted, I don't think he has earned his stripes just yet like Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi, but he is well on his way there. He's a mere 22 years old and is already considered to be one of the most talented players to ever play the game. The shoes are quite big to live up to, but he has an incredible ability to create space, take on players, and find the back of the net. I also picked Neymar because the chemistry between Xavi and Neymar is evident. Picking an attacking minded team, I needed a set of players that understand how each other play. Xavi and Neymar are currently tearing apart the defenses of La Liga. Their style of play is complimentary as Xavi likes to play the short passes from side to side and then look for the penetrating pass slicing the defenses. Neymar likes to hug the left sideline to receive the ball and take on a player or three, but if he doesn't get the ball he likes to make the diagonal runs and get the ball on the run... which Xavi has mastered!


Now when comparing my attack to Kyle's attack of Pirlo and Suarez, I believe my attack has a bit more of a step. Given that Pirlo is a play maker through and through, he enjoys giving the filtered pass and chipping the defenders. Suarez however, enjoys coming back to receive the ball and going to goal from outside the 18. This is similar to the issues that Italy had between their current forwards and midfield. Pirlo's style is not meshing too well with the forwards that come down to the midfield to receive the ball. Now with Garrett's selection, Bastian and Aguero... I believe that they would also conflict. Bastian likes to take on defenders and go toward the goal, very much like Yaya Toure lets say. But Aguero thrives more with a player like David Silva who plays more to feet. Aguero likes to play the quick 1-2-1 touches near the box and I don't think that Schweinsteiger is that kind of player.
Soccer is not about the forward versus the forward... it's about the forward versus the defense... Now let's dissect the defense of my colleagues. This is where it gets good.... So as usual, Kyle is up first. Neymar vs Buffon  smh.... sorry Kyle, not sure your keep is up to par anymore. He might need some glasses to see that again. Scoring on the goalie's side... ouch! Buffon looked like a cone... Second, Kompany plays with Man City (yes, my team and I'm about to bash them) just recently in the Champions League. As much as I wanted City to beat Barcelona, the defense the City put out there looked 2 steps behind where they should be. Granted, DeMichelis is a horrible, but the way that Barcelona's offense just picked apart City's defense was outrageous. Kompany being the captain and the center back was made to look a bit novice. Granted, Kompany is a great defender, but Barcelona's offense (which consists of Xavi and Neymar) is just on another level. Garrett is raving about how Courtois is the bees knees and tearing it up at Atletico... let me remind you all, especially Garrett, that Barcelona got 4 goals at Camp Nou and 2 goals in Madrid during 2012/2013 season. 6 goals in 2 games.. not soo hot. 2013/2014 season did yield better for Courtois as the game ended 0-0 in Madrid, but I do think that the real thrashing will happen mid-May at the Camp Nou. I do think Courtois is good, but light years away from being able to claim world class status. Thiago Silva, he really is a great center back. Positions himself well, has a good vision for outlet, and he's strong in the air. But he does get exposed when the attacker is nimble and very tactful with the ball on his feet.

This leads to the more controversial aspect of my team... Zabaleta. I definitely know that Argentina's defense is on the weak side, but that doesn't mean Zabaleta isn't a class defender. Watching him push up on the wing and running back after every attempt is intense. This guy must have gallon-sized lungs. The way that my team is structured is suitable for Zabaleta to thrive as his runs would be respected by Xavi exposing the opponents defense.

           Neuer
Zabaleta
          Xavi
                 Neymar

I know Kyle has mentioned that he feels that the team needs to have a backbone before anything else, and that most important players create the spine of the team. I do think that the spine of the team is important, but the mindset is a bit archaic. Messi hugs the bi-line, Cristiano Ronaldo also hugs the line. They both like driving at defenders from the side. You then have players like Garrincha, which some people claim was better than Pele. Rivelino prefered attacking players from the right. Roberto Carlos is a phenomenal player, and he has always been an outside defender. Some of these wingers have actually been incredibly important to expand the team. Giggs started on the left during his career and his been transitioned to the middle as he has gotten slower. Hazard is tearing apart teams driving from the left. I think that in a defensive minded team, the middle should be stacked a bit heavier, but when it comes to attacking teams, the flanks adds a bit of imbalance that creates havoc for defenses... AND FOR THIS REASON Zabaleta was my choice.

On that note... I think my team is the top team of the three.


Hope you enjoyed this week's post, and stay tuned for more editions of Off The Post!






















Monday, February 17, 2014

Countdown to Brazil: Off The Post

114 Days Away From The World's Greatest Sporting Event

Stadium construction in Curitiba
Welcome once again to our weekly World Cup article, Off The Post.  Unfortunately, technical difficulties at the end of the week kept us from getting this to you on Thursday or Friday, for which we are deeply sorry. Sepp Blatter is definitely to blame for this, as anything that goes wrong with the game of soccer can generally be attributed to that man in one way or another. Just kidding, Sepp. We all know that nobody could have known that Qatar would not be able to host a World Cup in the summer...Now, before the head of FIFA sends Swiss henchmen to our respective dwellings, let's jump into this week's topics.

1. What does Carlos Vela's decision to not play this summer mean for Mexico's chances? Are they better off without him?

Garrett:  I'm going to give you my take on this from two different viewpoints:

Purely Analytical: There is no doubt that Vela is a great Mexican talent. In just two and a half seasons with Real Sociedad, he has tallied 35 goals. On paper, this a player that you want on the squad, and would probably be in the starting eleven. But stats don't tell the whole story with Vela, who has shunned the Mexican team since 2011. In my opinion, a player who, in his prime, turns down the honor to wear his country's shirt, isn't worth having on your squad. Not only did he turn his back on Mexico, but he did so when the country needed him more than ever, when the possibility of missing out on Brazil was very real, as Mexico was struggling mightily in World Cup qualifying. It was the equivalent of turning your back on your family, except the family here consisted of 120 million people who eat, sleep, and breathe everything El Tri. Vela's absence this summer didn't even matter after the World Cup Draw in December.  The furthest Mexico can advance after that draw is the Round of 16, as they would be heavy underdogs there against either Spain, Netherlands, or Chile should they be able to get out of the group. Given that he is only 24, there is a chance that he makes an appearance in Russia in 2018, but don't be surprised if Miguel Herrera (or future coaches, given Mexico's recent love of firing coaches) turn their back on Vela like he has done to them.

As a USMNT supporter: Vela's decision to not join up with El Tri this summer is just further evidence of how our neighbors to the south are still in shambles, even though they qualified for the World Cup. Seriously though, what kind of player turns their back on their country when they are in desperate need of his talents? A member of El Tri, that's who. All because Vela is still butt-hurt over a suspension he received a few years ago from the Mexican Football Federation. Grow up, puto. And from a coaching standpoint, how desperate do you have to be to continue to plead with a player to join up with the team, when he turns you down time and time again. Move on, tell the player to hit the bricks and comé mierda, Herrera. Thankfully, we don't have to deal with this nonsense in Sam's Army. If only our honor, and self respect hadn't forced us to win that game in Panama, Mexico would have ended up where they deserved to be this summer...at home.

Kyle: I believe Mexico will miss a very talented player who is not committed to playing with the national team. His absence may not hurt as much due to Oribe Peralta's good run of form and the disharmony Vela has brought to the Mexican National Team.

Carlos Vela last played for Mexico in 2011. He has turned down playing for El Tri on many occasions including the recent World Cup qualifying campaign. Without Vela, Mexico finished fourth out of six teams in CONCACAF and qualified for the World Cup via a play-in game against New Zealand.

Vela has been Mexico's most consistent player in Europe for the past few years. Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez had a very bright spell with Manchester United, but he has struggled to find playing time this year. In 2011, Vela began playing with Real Sociedad and has become a key player for the team by scoring double digit goals in each of the past two seasons. Vela's goal scoring abilities could help El Tri as the Mexican National Team struggled to score goals (7 goals in 10 games) during qualifiers.

Vela's absence should be mitigated by Miguel Herrera's team formation and Oribe "El Cepillo" Peralta. Herrera prefers to play a 5-3-2 with the outside defenders pushing far up field. My guess is that Gio dos Santos will play as a withdrawn second forward, similar to where he plays with his club team, and he will support Oribe Peralta. This move will put dos Santos in a play-making role where he will receive more of the ball. It will also maximize Peralta's ability as a goal poaching forward.

Tito: This one goes out to Hugo Sanchez... you were a fabulous player, Mexico's greatest I would say. Then, as a coach, you were nothing spectacular; average at best. But as a commentator and analyst, you've by far shocked my expectations.... to say that "Carlos Vela is to Mexico what Messi is to Argentina or what Crisitano Ronaldo is to Portugal." SMH! I think that was the first time that Carlos Vela's name was in the same sentence as Messi's and Ronaldo's. My expectations were not that high Mr. Sanchez for your commentating skills, but these comments have just left me in disbelief... (side note and some words of advice: Hugo, drinking can impair judgement, so stay off the hooch and stick with juice [haha see what i did there; jugo = juice in Spanish but the name Hugo and the word jugo are phonetically the same for all you English only speakers, or readers in this case]).

Don't get me wrong, I do think Carlos Vela is a good player, but he is not one of those make-or-break situation kind of guys. The fact that Mexico can rely on the likes of Oribe Peralta for their goal scoring opportunities makes Carlos Vela seem very over inflated. Club teams aside, Carlos Vela has 35 caps with Mexico and 9 goals. But one can't forget that he has excluded himself since 2011 from the squad... there could be some bad blood in the locker room over actions like that. So his integration to the team might not be a seamless. On the other hand, Peralta seems to be on fire with 29 caps and 16 goals. Although Peralta is older, his integration and flow with the rest of the players of El Tri will make him their most lethal attacker.

2. Which U-25 player is most likely to shine brightest in Brazil this summer?

Garrett: As I touched on in last week's piece, I think Paul Pogba of France is going to have a big tournament this summer for Les Bleus. To keep things fresh though, I'm going to give you two U-25 players to look out for this summer. Choosing one player is simply impossible when you have the Deutschland Duo of Marco Reus and Mario Gotze. Yes, I just linked to another fantastic highlight reel with electronic music playing in the background. Deal with it. 2010 may have been the summer of Ozil and Muller, but all signs point to Marco and Mario becoming household names in the United States this year.

Reus and Gotze, 24 and 21 respectively, did not make Germany's 2010 World Cup squad, but they formed quite a partnership at Borussia Dortmund last year, scoring 34 goals in all competitions. Their connection on the field was undeniable, and all you have to do to see the level their bromance reached is search their names on Google Images. Seriously, major bromance. Given how beautifully Dortmund played with the two in their lineup, it was pretty heartbreaking to see Mario Gotze lured away by the Death Star known as "Bayern Munich" and their big money. The two, along with Robert Lewandoski, had really formed one of the best attacking trios Europe has seen in recent history, and did it in only one season together. God only knows the levels that would have been reached had they been able to play together for multiple years. On the international front, they've only acquired 45 caps, but have already totaled thirteen goals for their country, which should strike fear into their opponents hearts this summer given their impending reunion. They attack with flair and panache, and they have hair that Ron Burgundy would be jealous of.  (Warning: Do not allow your girlfriend to watch a German game this summer, as you will only have to hear about, and then be compared to, Gotze and Reus and their great hair. You don't want that burden.) When it comes down to it, the only reason you should not like these two is because they both enjoy listening to the crap, I mean music, that Justin Bieber puts out. Although this is a serious character flaw that some may not be able to overlook, their displays on the pitch will more than make up for it this summer for those that can.

Kyle: Miralem Pjanic is a player I expect to perform well at the World Cup and parlay his play on the world's largest stage to a move to a larger club. In choosing Pjanic, I wanted to select someone who doesn't receive a great deal of international attention, is attack minded, and has a good chance of making it out of the group stages. After all, it is harder to impress casual fans with great defending and positional awareness.

Pjanic is a 23 year old attacking midfielder who plays for AS Roma in Serie A and internationally for Bosnia Herzegovina. He is a creative player who can control the game, make incisive passes, and score. Prior to playing with Roma, Pjanic played at Lyon and Metz in Ligue 1. I expect Bosnia Herzegovina to play attack minded soccer, advance out of their group, and gain new fans.

Bonus nugget: Remember that 23 year old Italian I talked about last week? Check out what he did this past weekend in Serie A....Balo Balo!



Tito: World Cups are always filled with stars, and some of the most inspiring names we get to see are those that are beginning to make names for themselves. This World Cup will be no different. There are two individuals that I think are set up for prime time. There are so many players that have already been phenomenal and are already still 25 like Kun Aguero and Angel Di Maria, and there are others that are about to explode like Chelsea's Schurrle, Liverpool's Sturridge, the Dutchman Strootman, Lamela, and even the American Diskerud has potential to become a "household" name, but, I think that this World Cup will be run by the likes of Eden Hazard and Diego Costa. The former is 23 years old and has cemented his position with both club (Chelsea) and country (Belgium). He is one of the reasons why Belgium has qualified to World Cup and has been a staple of the senior team since 2008 (he was only 17 years old when he debuted). He is incredibly nimble and has blistering pace. Those two attributes partnered with phenomenal touch has made his always controversial club manager, Jose Mourinho, claim that Hazard could be as good as Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi (if you refer above, Hugo Sanchez made the same claim but was ridiculed as he was trying to throw Carlos Vela into that mix). He is an attacking midfielder usually penetrating defenses through the flanks and many are stating that Hazard is "possibly the outstanding talent in Europe right now" (ESPN). If you can catch a Chelsea game from now until the World Cup, do yourself a favor and watch it, taking particular interest in Hazard, as Chelsea's top standing can be highly attributed to his talent.


Diego Costa is an incredibly interesting case. He is 25 years old and has been making a name for himself since his time at the highly coveted Barcelona youth since 2004. At the age of 17, he was making a name for himself. This 6'2" striker is finding his form now at Atletico Madrid, which is in a three-way tie for first with Barcelona and Real Madrid in La Liga. This season, in the 23 games he has played, he has 20 goals (team total 56) and 3 assists. His ability to find the goal is impressive, and due to his large size, stopping him is incredibly difficult. Now, this is where it gets interesting... Diego Costa was born in Brazil. Since he has been part of Atletico since 2008, he applied for Spanish citizenship (like many foreign players do in their host countries to allow for foreign player slots to remain open) and received it in September of 2013. He had been called up by the Brazilian national team in May of 2013, before he had dual citizenship. After capping Brazil in two games (0 goals and entered as a substitute),  in October of 2013, only a month after getting his Spanish citizenship, he declares that he wishes to play for the Spanish national team. He wrote a letter to the highly coveted 5 time World Cup winning Brazilian national team and requested to be released. After which Scolari basically called him a turncoat and commented that someone who doesn't wish to play for their national team, during the World Cup, in the country of his birth, is a persona non grata. However, this now gives a monster edge back to Spain. Fernando 'El Niño' Torres is a glimmer of his old self and David Villa is aging. Since both Villa and Costa play for Atletico, they find themselves ripping apart defenses in Brazil come this summer. keep an eye on Diego Costa, I am predicting a good tournament for him which will then follow a purchase to big club starting the 2014-15 season.

3. Which contender has the more serious goalkeeping issue, Spain or Brazil?


Garrett:  This is such a close one to call. Spain and Brazil have relied heavily on Iker Casillas and Julio Cesar, respectively, over the years. Combined, they have amassed 229 caps for their countries, and have been instrumental in helping their squads lift trophies. Yet hard times have fallen on both keepers.  Saint Iker is only getting playing time at Madrid in Champions League matches, as he is now Madrid's second choice keeper. Cesar, on the other hand, barely got any minutes at Queens Park Rangers after they were relegated to the Championship, and while he is likely to be the starting keeper for Toronto FC now that his loan deal has gone through, the MLS season doesn't start until early March.

Despite both not getting the minutes they need to be in top form, their national squad coaches have both indicated they will more than likely start this summer in Brazil. Considering that Cesar is likely to get more minutes than Casillas over the next few months, you'd think that Spain has the more serious issue.  However, Spain has the far better set of backup keepers should their captain not be in form, as Victor Valdes and Pepe Reina both start for major European clubs, whereas Brazil's backups all hail from their native domestic league. Given that Spain has more options to tend the net, I have to say that Brazil has more worry about between the posts. If Cesar can't reach top form in Toronto over the coming months, Brazil is going to have a major goalkeeping conundrum on their hands when they start group play.

Kyle: Brazil. Julio Cesar, the goalkeeper who started in the Confederations Cup, has played one game for QPR this season. It is hard to imagine a second choice goalkeeper for a team in England's second division starting for Brazil. Julio Cesar is moving to Toronto FC in hopes of finding regular playing time.

If Big Phil Scolari doesn't select Julio Cesar, he will have to select a goalkeeper without much international experience. Cavalieri and Jefferson were the other keepers on the Brazilian Confederations Cup team. Cavalieri has 3 caps and Jefferson has 9 caps.

Spain has an abundance of riches in goal. The only problem for Del Bosque will be picking between three world-class keepers. Iker Casillas has been Spain's number one since 2002 and is the most capped player in Spanish history. At the beginning of last year, I thought Casillas would be a lock for Spain's starting keeper spot. However, Jose Mourinho, Casillas's former club coach, benched Casillas for Antonio Adan because he felt Adan was better than Iker "at that moment." Adan's contract was terminated after Mourinho left to Chelsea. This season, Adan has started two games for Real Betis who are currently last in La Liga. Good job, Jose. Mourinho also went into the winter transfer market and acquired Diego Lopez, a very good keeper, who he played ahead of Casillas. It seems Jose Mourinho and Iker Casillas had personal problems that spilled onto the field.

Mourinho left Real Madrid last year and Carlo Ancelloti was hired as his replacement. To my surprise, Ancelloti has stuck with Diego Reyes as the starting goalkeeper for La Liga games, and Casillas starts in the Champions League and Copa del Rey.

Del Bosque will be left to decide whether to play Casillas, who is still a great keeper, or pick from a talent pool that consists of Victor Valdes (Barca), Pepe Reina (Napoli), and David de Gea (Manchester United).

Tito: Simple, Brazil. As Garrett mentioned, Spain has not only Iker Casillas from Real Madrid where he trains with elite athletes. Shots being fired by Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, Benzema, Jese, etc., but three other goalkeepers that are playing at reputable clubs: Victor Valdez is at none other than Barcelona, David de Gea is at Manchester United, and Pepe Reina is at Napoli.

Taken into perspective, Julio Cesar was once a wall in the back, but his form since his move to England with QPR has been far from stellar. It's not only his physical aspect at stake here, but his emotional and mental state couldn't be at it's peak with him being recently transferred to Toronto FC. Not to put down the MLS, but you have 4 keepers from Spain all playing in named clubs, while you have Brazil's best prospect between the post in the second division in England, with a transfer to the MLS. Let it be known, MLS is a league where players are nurtured and then sold to bigger clubs, or where greats come to retire and have a prolonged set of glory days. The next FOUR on the Brazilian list, which will be left nameless, have 18 caps between them.

4. Some players just don't play as well for their country as they do for their professional club.  Which player fits this mold, and is there any chance he reverses the trend this summer?

Garrett: Some may not agree with this, but I think Franck Ribery fits the bill here. He has scored 16 goals in 80 caps for Les Bleus, and while that is a respectable tally, you have to expect more from a player who has been in contention for the Ballon d'Or in recent years. When you actually look at the goals he's scored for France, only one has come in a major tournament, and six of them came in friendlies. The ones that have come in qualification games have come against sub-par opponents, like Lithuania, Georgia, and Belarus. Contrast that with his form at Bayern Munich, where he has found the net 60 times in 170 games, and it's apparent that Scarface just hasn't been the same player for his country in the past. However, his current form this year (7 goals in 14 appearances) coupled with the fact this is his chance to leave his mark on French football leads me to believe that Ribery can reverse course in Brazil.  Their group opponents aren't the most difficult, which should mean the Frenchman will have ample opportunities to find the back of the net.  Expect Franck, the man with a face that only a mother could love, to carpe diem it here, because at the age of 30, this very well may be his last World Cup.
Good Ol' Scarface
Kyle: Lionel Messi is one of the best players in the world for Barcelona and it would be hard for him to replicate his club performance with Argentina. The club versus country argument is difficult to analyze because a club practices frequently whereas an international team meets periodically around FIFA calendar dates. International teams are similar to allstar teams which do not have sufficient time to practice.

Messi has won four Ballons d'Or, six La Liga championships, and three Champions League trophies. He averages .86 goals per game with Barcelona, but has only managed to average .45 goals per game for Argentina. With Barcelona, Messi has played with a talented core group of players for years. Barcelona is known for playing a possession based 4-3-3 that is used at all levels of the club. It would be the equivalent of a middle school basketball team running the same offense and defense as the high school team. Early in his career, Messi played as the right forward in the formation and cut inside onto his favored left foot. Now, Messi plays as the center forward where he has more opportunity to influence the game.

Argentina traditionally plays a 4-3-1-2 formation where the midfielder behind the striker is a moody playmaker such as Juan Veron or Juan Riquelme. Argentina has tried to accommodate Messi by playing a 4-3-3 similar to Barcelona. Their coach has admitted that it is difficult to find a defensive and offensive balance with the formation and players at his disposal. Argentina's attacking players are among the best in the world, but their defense is mediocre at best.

I think the formation change and the amount of talented attacking players will allow Messi to shine for Argentina but not up to his Barcelona level.

Tito: I think that the safe answer is Wayne Rooney. But I don't want to be like the rest of the other writers and get on the "Rooney is worthless for club" bandwagon... I think his international form is a given. I think that the person who plays really well for club, currently at Zenit St. Petersburg with 9 games 7 goals so far, is none other than Givanildo Vieira de Souza... better known as Hulk (and with a name like his I would also prefer to be called Hulk ;P). Granted, Hulk is 27 years old, but in all of the games I've seen him play with the Canarinho and I do feel like Hulk under-represents.



Hulk is currently with Zenit St. Petersburg, but he made his name at Porto. While with the northern Portuguese monsters, he scored 54 goals in 100 games. He was highly scouted by many teams. Zenit St. Petersburg scooped him up in 2012 for 60 million euros. While in Russia, he's scored 16 goals in 32 matches... and in the 9 games for the 2013/2014 Russian Premier League season he has 7 to his tally.

However, his statistics with Brazil tell a different story. He is mainly used on the right side of the field in hopes that he will thunder into the box going directly to goal. He goes from a monster in club, where Hulk is fitting, to the humble Bruce Banner when he puts on his national uniform. He's usually the first sub to occur for Brazil, which occurs around the 70th minute mark.

I have big expectations for Hulk as he really is a great player, and I'm hoping that he will show up for his country in front of his people, in his home country, representing the 5-time-World Cup-winning Brazilians. But history tends to be a great predictor, I fear that I'll be seeing a tamed beast as part of the attack.

5. We excluded Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo from last week's conversation, but let's finish this week's edition with them. Which of the top two players in the world will have the bigger burden of carrying their country's hopes and dreams this coming summer?


Garrett:  To me, this is more of a psychological question as opposed to one driven by statistics. I'll leave the statistics to Tito, who has a great bit on that angle further down the page. When it comes down to it, Cristiano has propelled his country to success at the international level, while Leonel Messi has not. Just look at what CR7 has done for his country:

2004 Euro Cup:  Part of group that made it to the final, where they narrowly lost to the Greeks in a major upset. Found the back of the net twice as a 19 year old.

2006 World Cup: Took Portugal to the semifinals, where they lost to France only because of a Zidane penalty kick. Scored one goal against Iran.

2008 Euro Cup: Lost by the narrowest of margins, 1-0, to world power Germany in the quarterfinals.  Found the net once.

2010 World Cup: Survived "Group of Death" with Brazil and Ivory Coast, lost to eventual champion Spain by the narrowest of margins again, 1-0, in the Round of 16. Scored one goal in four games, though it was in a rout against lowly North Korea.

2012 Euro Cup: Led Portugal to semifinals, where they lost to eventual champion Spain in penalty kicks. Scored three goals, including both game-winners against Netherlands and Czech Republic.

In the two most prominent tournaments in international football, Ronaldo has led an often understaffed squad to the brink of glory multiple times. Contrast that with Messi's international history, who has often had a better supporting cast than the Real Madrid man:

2006 World Cup: Made squad, but used sparingly in Germany.

2007 Copa America:  Helped get Argentina to final, where they were completely outclassed by Brazil 3-0.

2010 World Cup:  Navigated Argentina through arguably the easiest group in the tournament, and defeated an average Mexican team in Round of 16 before being thoroughly dominated and outclassed by Germany 4-0 in the quarters.  Messi failed to find the back of the net.

2011 Copa America: With Argentina hosting the tournament, and being considered favorites to lift the trophy, only managed to win one game, as they were eliminated by Uruguay in the quarters.  Once again, he did not score a goal in the run of play.

It is crystal clear that Ronaldo has outperformed Messi at the international level.  His four goals against Sweden in the UEFA playoff show that he not only carries the weight of his country on his back, but also thrives in that role.  Because of Ronaldo's successes, Leo Messi has to have the bigger burden this summer.  He'll be playing in front of home fans in South America, amplifying the already humongous pressure, and you know that Argentina has not forgotten about the 2011 Copa America.  Additionally, they have arguably the clearest path to the final in Brazil, and given that they will be favorites in every match before the semis, anything short of a trip to the final four will probably be deemed an epic failure. Considering those lofty expectations, the weight of the world will be on the 5'7" Argentinean shoulders of Messi this summer, while a weaker-than-usual Portugal will be happy to just escape the Group of Death. All eyes are on you, Leo "La Pulga."

Kyle: I think Messi has a better supporting cast, so I'm going with CR7. He single-handedly led Portugal to the World Cup. He scored all of Portugal's four goals in the World Cup play-in game against Sweden. I'm a Barca homer so I'm not a Ronaldo fan, but his performance against Sweden was amazing.

Below is Portugal's starting lineup, with each players club team in parentheses, in their crucial play-in game against Sweden:

Rui Costa (Sporting, Portugal) - 29 caps and did not make the World Cup squad in 2010.
Bruno Alves (Fenerbache, Turkey) - A big, physical defender who is 32 years old and towards the end of his career.
Pepe (Real Madrid, Spain) - A big, athletic, and physical center back who is known for losing his temper.
Fabio Coentrao (Real Madrid, Spain) - He doesn't see regular playing time for Madrid, which is understandable since Marcelo is the starter.
Joao Pereira (Valencia, Spain) - 29 caps and plays on a solid La Liga team.
Miguel Veloso (Dinamo Kiev, Ukraine) - 43 caps and was not on the 2010 World Cup squad.
Joao Moutinho (AS Monaco, France/Monaco) - A technically skilled midfielder who has 64 caps. Moutinho and former club teammate James Rodriguez moved to AS Monaco for an estimated 70 million euros which is a high valuation for two players.
Raul Meireles (Fenerbache, Turkey) - He had a decent career with Chelsea and is now playing for a good Turkish side. His name makes me think of tattoos and interesting hair styles...and shots from 30 yards out that go into the stands.
Nani (Manchester United, England) - He had a very promising start to his career at Manchester United. Lately, he has been unable to find playing time.
Hugo Almeida (Besiktas, Turkey) - He has started 18 games this season and scored 11 goals, which is quite a good return.
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid, Spain) - Won two Ballons d'Or, dates supermodels, and was part of this hilarious meme.

Portugal has some good players, but except for the Real Madrid contingent, none of them are playing for world class teams. Why? Because they aren't great. Sometimes it takes a while for players from less visible leagues like Portugal to get the recognition they deserve. However, Portugal's team is old enough where the big spending teams would have paid a hefty transfer fee for a high quality player.

Tito: I am not writing this piece to say who is the better footballer or in any way saying that one player is better than the other. This is strictly to put perspective on who matters more to their respective national teams. This will certainly be a debate for many writers, commentators, analyzers, and teams as a whole. Who is more important to their national team... Messi para los albicelestes or Cristiano pra selecao das quinas?

Topic 1: Qualifying

In the highly competitive CONMEBOL, without Brazil, Argentina qualified as 1st. As they captured 1st, Messi scored 10 goals (second only to Suarez), while Higuain scored 9 times, 5 notches for Aguero, and 3 for Di Maria, Lavezzi, and Maxi Rodriguez. Portugal however, came in second in their group which consisted of Russia, Azerbaijan, Israel, Northern Ireland, and Luxembourg. This leads to the point of this topic. Portugal then faced the self proclaimed god of soccer, Ibrahimovic and the rest of the Scandonavian Swedes. In that playoff game, the first leg was in Lisbon and Ronaldo scored a critical 82' goal giving the first leg to the Portuguese. The second leg was a thriller. A goal by Portugal in the 50', which was followed by Ibra's equalizer in the 68'. Ibra then scored again 4 minutes later to give Sweden the 2-1 lead in Sweden. Interestingly enough, Portugal still had fire power of their own and scored a goal in the 78' and then sealed the deal in the 82', sending Portugal to the World Cup. The scorer of those three Portuguese goals was none other than Cristiano Ronaldo. Portugal scores 4 goals in 2 games, all attributed to C Ron. Beastly.

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(Remember, I'm just proving the more important player to their national team)

Topic 2: Attacking Make-up of their Respective National Teams

Name        Caps       Goals
Argentina
Messi           83          37 (45% of goals)
Higuain       35          21
Aguero        49          21
Lavezzi       28            4
      Total    195         83 

Portugal
C Ronaldo 107         47 (52% of goals)
H. Postiga   66         27
Eder              6            0
H. Almeida  53        17
       Total   232         91

Cristiano naturally has more caps as he is older, but he has also scored more goals on a percentage scale. Furthermore, Cristiano is usually on the score sheet as 1st or 2nd, making him the catalyst that makes Portugal score.

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Topic 3: World Cup Group

Group F:
Argentina
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Iran
Nigeria

Argentina are playing against minnows of the football world. Argentina has more than enough strength to pass through the group stages if Messi were to sit out. 

Group G:
Germany
Portugal
Ghana
United States

Many consider this the "group of death." This means that any of the teams can make it out of the group. Considering I'm highly wanting the United States to make it out of the group stage, that means that another team will have to leave the tournament early. As Germany are always bringing a great team, they have the higher chances of making out of the group (as per most bookies), but the next spot will definitely be a dog fight. If Cristiano Ronaldo were to have an off day, or a bad lunch, Portugal may very well see the exit door.

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We have here another hat-trick by Cristiano Ronaldo. I know that there are many many many more topics that could have been tested, but I do think that these topics are representative as to who will need to show up more for their national team. Let's face it, Argentina's route to the final is much easier than that of Portugal's, but for Argentina to lift the cup, Messi will need to show up. I still believe that Cristiano has the tougher task and the more weight for Portugal.


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